This one was stupid too as she posted it all on Facebook on county time. Here is the file: TAD02 I’m too tired to write out the story but I think the .pdf file is self-explanatory. I’ve asked for one more document and will post if I get it. I believe the EEOC is investigating. The matter was swept under the rug by the county.
Administrator: Why not post links to the 2 TAD stupidvisors Facebooks pages? It would be oh so delish! He, he, he…
What arrogant piece of trash would be so bold as to joke about someone’s livelihood on a social site that everyone can see? Karma is real. Thanks for exposing these abuses. Keep up the good work!
Any chance that the terminated employee can be reinstated in light of the abuses by the TAD stupidvisors?
All I have to say is WOW! I understand how people would be upset if a supervisor talking smack about an employee they fired. But, really? There were no names mentioned so what makes everyone so sure she was talking in reference to this Jerry person being fired?
It honestly doesn’t matter who she was talking about. She was on county time as a supervisor talking about a subordinate.
How do you know it was related directly to a subirdinate and not something she or a loved one was going through in their personal life?
She was on Facebook on county time. Any subordinate would be fired for that.
It appears to me, she was on her cell during what could have been a break depending on what time she arrived at work. I don’t know, to me, it seems like people have a lot of time of their hands. Unless she has actually given someone a formal disciplinary action for what was in that letter, it doesn’t appear that the information as accurate. Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for calling out those in supervisor and management positions who are totally abusing the system and get away with things. For instance, I was informed a DM was caught doing jellp shots in her office with subordinates and she got a slap on the wrist while the others were punished. This on the other hand seems for fetched.
explain babysitting on county time? Or does he/she refer to a 2nd job? Smh
@ Real, the complaint that was attached alleged that the Jerry person was the only person fired by the supervisor making the snide remarks. ‘Coincidentally’ around the same time period. And her buddy (another supervisor in the same department?) chimed right in and knew what she was talking about. She took that chance that somebody might think it was an employee, not a loved one, so that’s on her. She shouldn’t be on Facebook on company time anyway.
Real, you and your buddy need Facebook rehab. Oops, I mean, those stupidvisors needs Facebook rehab. HELLO? FACEBOOKING ON COUNTY TIME? SERIOUSLY?! This is where my tax dollars go??! You also need a little injection of common sense to have decided if her “loved one” was going through something that similar to a subordinate, maybe you (sorry, they) shouldn’t post something that others could possibly misconstrue. I’m going to google Jerry Edwards right now. I bet he has a different story!
I’m just playing devils advocate here. I think using county time to do crap like that is totally inappropriate and anyone doing it should have to deal with what may happen based on that. To assume that I am part of it is just stupid. Again, people have too much time on their hands to keep jumping to assumptions. I bet half the people on here are bent out of shape because they have gotten busted for something they think was wrong. I know, it’s happened to me too.
Real accuses people of ‘jumping to assumptions’ then does just that in the very next sentence. @aj I agree that little babysitting comment was out of line. If she’s posting crap like that on Facebook about her crew she’s a real piece of work with some serious comtempt for those people.
I looked at the file again. Most of the times this person circled were either breaks, lunches or in the evenings after work hours. So again, what’s the issue? If someone can explain it fully, I’m on board that she was totally unprofessional and something needs to be done.
aj, you said something about babysitting on county time. please tell me she didn’t say that. i didn’t see that post in the file. did i miss it?
I looked at the file again too. When one posts on Facebook from their cell phone, a little cell phone icon shows. Many of the posts you suggest were done on “breaks and lunches” don’t show being done from a cell phone. Does the County condone using their servers to access Facebook? This is just wrong on so many levels.
I don’t even think you can get on Facebook through any TAD computer. One of my co-workers had tried a few weeks ago and he got the warning message that comes up. I’m looking at it again too just in case I’m missing something. I’m seeing the comments you are suggesting being done mainly weekends, evenings, prior to work starting and at times if could be lunches. Sadly, I look at all angles before I make a conclusion. Guess not everyone does that.
The cover letter had me at ‘hostile working environment’ and the witness’ accounts of ‘harshness’, ‘abuse’, ‘berate’, ‘micromanage’ and all the other appalling behavior this supervisor exhibits towards her staff. The Facebook attachment was just a little icing on the cake.
They were supposed to be cracking down on Facebook and MySpace on county computers. What a lot of them do now is bring their laptops to work with them. I hear a lot of TAD supervisors keep the notebooks on throughout the work day so they can play games, watch videos, Facebook, etc. The laptops are kept out of view most of the time.
So this post looks interesting, and I feel the need to leave two cents. Please keep in mind that I have been affected by bad supervisors and managers as well, but I am just trying to understand this. I have read the attached file, and also have to play the opposite side, and have questions. First, I would like to know of an instance where a County employee was fired for “Facebooking” while at work. Second, there are so many laws in the state and our County that prohibit someone from just being “fired” from a position unless there is cause. People fire themselves for their performance, or lack thereof (sorry Jerry – don’t know you so nothing personal). What was Jerry fired for? If the argument is that this supervisor was doing FB on our County time, then I would say we all should just go into work tomorrow and clean out our desks because I guarantee most of us are guilty of doing the same. The file does show most of the times as being before or after a normal business hours work day, and the topics of the posts are so benign that they could be about anything, and that it is obvious the “Anonymous” person who submitted this is really reaching for something. My opinion – this is a personal attack on this supervisor. If you are seriously going to make a complaint then sign your name and be an adult. Does this supervisor have a history of firing employees? Is there a pattern? If so, I say that this supervisor is the issue for sure! I once had a supervisor in my face yelling at me for an unknown reason. That person needed to go – bad – and finally cut his own throat. I have been employed here for 20 years, and have had minimal problems. Maybe I am just lucky.
I’ve worked in several departments within the County and it seems like she isn’t doing anything different then what other TAD supervisors are doing. In my experince, TAD has been the worst department I’ve worked in regards to the way the staff treat eachother from the workers on up. Having friends who are supervisors, maybe someone’s coming down on here to “micromanage” the staff. As for the other issues, that letter didn’t really say too much.
Just an aside; but reading about the use of Facebook at work on county time is ironic with its up and down sides, no doubt. I currently work for the Department of Defense (DoD). We routinely get warnings about internet use (and abuse, among numerous other varied things) and must sign a document every year, yada, yada, yada. The DoD computer system has all manner of security software programs and firewalls to protect its network. Federal employees are occasionally advised against recreational computer use on the job when bosses are around and/or semi-annual inspection teams, etc. Access to numerous internet sites are blocked by the DoD, monitored and documented, etc. The funny thing is, access to Facebook is allowed during work time! What most young knucklehead federal employees don’t realize is that DoD documents and monitors this stuff on each member to get a bead on them; to see what they are up to in their personal lives, their associations, what classified information (if any) is being compromised when broadcast out on the world-wide-web, etc. This is important stuff when deciding whether to grant security clearances. Make no mistake, these young individuals are high-performing, production-oriented employees who are extremely tech-savvy. The bottom line is, a federal employee better get all of their work done (and then some), be available when necessary for new tasks pertinent to the mission or risk either losing out on promotions or eventual termination.
If it is as hostile as the letter writer says it is, I can see why they would want to remain anonymous.
If the environment is as hostile as the author of the letter says, wouldn’t that supervisor already be in trouble? If she was causing a hostile environment as described she would already have been dealt with. The author is “appalled?” The supervisor continues to “berate” employees? Seriously? If that was the case the issue would have been brought up long ago, and would not need an “anonymous” letter. I know the county has issues, but this would not be ignored. I am with Stark – employed with the county for a long time with minimal issues. I would bet money that this ANONYMOUS person broke policies by generating this garbage on the clock. This is a joke. Here you go – if I started a job and could not handle it – I would wait to see what my supervisors said then decide what my best option was. There Garrett – another answer to your poll. Just had an idea – I know how we can close the county deficit – eliminate employees like Mr. or Mrs. Anonymous, and put their wages toward something worthwhile – like a person who needs a job and will appreciate what they have, not someone wasting our time and tax money.
hahaha gerald you must be her friend smh, maybe if they stop sweeping things under the rug she would be FIRED!!!
Gerald Michaelson: Really? You can’t be serious.
County management not only condones hostile treatment of its employees it perpetuates it! Throughout my time with the county, I’ve witnessed numerous instances of decent county employees harassed and subjugated by incompetent, unqualified management/stupidvisors.
Oftentimes when employees don’t make the grade during their probationary period it is not always due to not measuring up as a new hire but rather, not fitting in with the environment/culture.
In that case, perhaps the county did the poor guy a favor in sparing him future abuse and torment at the hands of idiotic county management.
If TAD is such a horrible and hostile department, why not leave?
Jennifer: Really? Once you hold a permanent position it’s not as easy as that to just up and leave. Have you tried to obtain gainful employment lately? It’s not so easy, especially in this economy. Of course, if one is well-connected with the County of San Bernardino in a higher level positions, such as Matt Brown, of ACR it should be an absolute snap, plus you get a hefty payoff for keeping quiet about unseemly things going on within the county!
So, tell that to a single mom working as a Office Assistant II with a couple of kids trying to make ends meet. Hey, don’t like it; go get another job! Where is she going to go and get half-way decent pay plus medical benefits for her kids, hmm? So what does one do? Live with the abuse.
You are all heart, Jennifer!
First of all several line employees have been disciplined including terminations for facebook posts from mobile phones. A supervisor is held to a higher standard than a line employee and therefore should never be posting anything on County time, break time or not. Besides the employee/ incident in question there’s also a picture taken at the EWSI’s desk CLEARLY another violation of County Policy as NO pics are to be taken in any County facility without prior permission. EWSI’s are well aware of County Policy as not only do they need to go over each and every one with workers once a year plus all new hires they also have to sign their own copy once a year given to them by their district managers. Clearly based on the internet discipline including FB usage that has been going on thorughout TAD over the last several months this EWSI and the other that posted are both well aware that line workers are being disciplined for similar posts. I believe the expectation of County Management is that supervisors are not to discuss any disciplinary action with people who aren’t involved and don’t need to know. It’s hypocritical but typical of TAD EWSI’s to be doling out discipline that makes no sense with an iron fist while doing the exact same things that they are issuing memos for. Whether it be viewing cases that they shouldn’t or gossiping or texting or breaching confindentiality they shouldn’t be blatantly violating any policy that they are disciplining other’s for. Tucker is a nice lady but she’s been aware of how these two treat their EW’s for a long time because experienced EW’s have complained to her on the record many, many times. Tucker is not they typical backstabbing DM so I can only assume that she has difficulty comprehending how she could have such unprofessional witches working for her. Ferrin is probably making similar FB posts himself during the day. Locurto would definitely love to fire these two for this ( unless he likes them) but with the complaint of a hostile environment coming from an anonymous source he will go with the standard ” the person needs to come forward and make a formal complaint”. I hope HR actually launches a real investigation and talks to the other workers in the office. Chances are she told other’s about the termination and then maybe will get both of the EWSI’s that way. Honestly Sharon, these 2 B**** have been torturing workers since they got to that office. I imagine if either one of them were terminate the office would stand up and applaud (including all of the other EWSI’s.) At least now maybe they’ll tink twice before talking shit, treating people like crap and power tripping over their extra dollar an hour.
I know all the people that “Jeff” mentioned and I can say that if staff have told Vivien about the unfair treatment caused by either of these supervisors, she has investigated and taken actions. I have seen some changes in the way both EWSI’s have done things based on concerns that were brought forth. You honestly think that if the complaints were fully valid that either EWSI would still be there? TAD has no problem disciplining their staff or demoting/firing supervisors or managment as we have seen in the past few years. If you pay attention to the policies, you are able to use both phone and internet while on breaks. Yes, I have been questioned for my use as many of us have and I have had discipline action against me. While in my hearing with my DM, DD, SBPEA rep and HR, I was told that when the report was pulled, my breaks and lunches were backed out to give me the benefit of the doubt. Who else on here has had to go to a hearing for this? Do you all know what the proper process is? A lot of the supervisors let things slide. They know we aren’t all there for the full amount of hours we should be. They know that we talk throughout the day and abuse the policies ourselves. Is every infraction addressed? No it isn’t because I’ve seen these same supervisor’s walk by when they are being done and not a word from them. I’ve also seen them back their staff when management wants to know why the workers haven’t been as productive as they think they should be. I’m no longer in that office but I doubt things have changed for the worse that much since I’ve been gone.
Mr. Spicoli raises some additional questions. It appears you have knowledge of several disciplinary actions/terminations regarding County employees and Facebook. Would you share those details here? I agree wholeheartedly that a supervisor is held to a higher standard. Your comment about, “never posting anything on County time, break time or not,” – raises the question of – what are break times for? Are they not exactly that – a break from work? Is it not a time for ALL County employees to step away from the job and have some time to do things such as have a snack, make personal calls, smoke, and even go onto Facebook? I know and guarantee employees all over the County do exactly that, and at probably every level of service and job description. I am sure you have even done it yourself, and if you have not, then I stand corrected and sincerely apologize. However, I would like to know how a picture of a Starbuck’s drink is so detrimental to County operations? I would also like to know what disciplinary action was “discussed?” There is nothing on the posts that indicate disciplinary action. Are you referring to something else? Additionally, if there are other workers who have complained “many, many times,” that would also be something that would have already been addressed. If not, you are describing a boss and a department that is so broken that it begs the question – Why would ANYONE work there? In addition, the argument of not being able to find another job does not support that point because there are pages of other jobs online at the County, should one choose to stay there. In addition, a hostile work environment is one that both a reasonable person would find hostile or abusive and one that a particular person who is the object of the harassment perceives to be hostile or abusive. Hostile work environment is determined by looking at all of the circumstances, including the frequency of the allegedly harassing conduct, its severity, whether it is physically threatening or humiliating, and whether it unreasonably interferes with an employee’s work performance. Is it really a hostile work environment, or is it a supervisor keeping employees on track? Is the supervisor humiliating employees time and time again for no reason? People do not like to be told that they are doing anything wrong. The reality is that some people have forgotten that they work for an employer, who has expectations of that employee. Some employees have an entitlement attitude. It appears that you work in the same department as this supervisor, and that you have first hand information. Is that a true statement? Well, I am sure that I will be called out and told that I must be a “friend” of Angela Garrett. The truth is that I have been through a similar situation in the past, and I just want people to look at this situation factually, and not emotionally. If a bad supervisor has affected you, then by all means, step up as an adult. Do not hide behind an anonymous letter. I am sure you probably know who this person is. Mr. Spicoli – I mean no disrespect at all to you or anyone by this post. Just want people to look at this from both sides. You called them “witches,” and that is exactly what this is – a witch-hunt. Line workers are the leaders of tomorrow, and I hope that someone with the attitude of thumping the policy book and quoting regulations, and going on witch-hunts is never my supervisor. I am not a perfect employee, but I get the job done.
Ironman: Just because there are other jobs listed with the county means that when one applies they will get it. There are employees who are blacklisted after being hired on at the county who cannot get other jobs within the county, promotions, transfers or job changes. The county would deny such blacklisting exists, but it does.
Like anything, it’s not what you know but who you blow that will get you ahead at the county.
The situation is sad, and that does happen.
I will agree with Beaufort in regards to it is about the politics once you are an employee of the County. If you have pissed off a DM or DD and try to apply for a supervisor job, chances are you’re already a “no” before you ever interview.
At the same point, I do have so ask, if employees feel so strong about these two supervisor’s treating the line staff as described, again, why not take it even further up the chain or the association. I know there is a rep in her unit who has no problem speaking for what is right whether it is for her co-workers or supervision.
Jennifer:
No offense, but people here say to have some guts, use your name, confront, complain, use the chain of command to stand up, etc., etc. It’s all well and good however, then….there’s reality. An employee who has the guts, takes the time to stand up is usually punished or retaliated against in some form or manner at the time or later on. An employee who exhibits some balls is viewed as a serious threat and will be dealt with accordingly. It doesn’t matter if the employee is correct in their assertions, the mere fact that they dared to complain makes THEM the problem in the eyes of management! They are then viewed as difficult, a trouble-maker, etc. Forget about ever getting ahead. Upward mobility in your career at the county suddenly hits a dead-end. They don’t care how well an employee has done in the past or how hard they work; you are done. It’s sad, but true.
To get ahead at the county, you have to be connected in some way politically and be a yes man (or woman). In these cases, qualifications be damned. If upper management wants one of these “yes” people, they change the rules to make them qualified and get them into the position.
Jennifer: Also, don’t bother with SBPEA, they will not help an employee; they have no balls and are in bed with county human resources and/or admin/management.
I agree 100% with what Jeff Spicoli is saying. Anyone who has been on FB knows that if I post something on a “break”, and then someone responds to my post, FB sends me a notification. Then I post back at the person, and on and on it goes. I can guarantee that some of these posts were done outside any break or lunch times. One of the posts I noticed shows a time of 11:41am, and then another at 12:42pm. Either she is on lunch for 1 hr, or the first post was a break and the 2nd lunch, but everyone knows you cannot take a break and then go to lunch right away. I believe you need 1 hr. in between. The problem with some supervisors is they are quick to discipline their unit members, but they don’t look at themselves. I have had supervisors tell workers that it doesn’t matter what they do. The fact is alot of employees have children and even older parents, and they need their cell phones in case a emergency arises. The problem is when people are on the phone talking or texting the majority of the day. Another note of interest is that someone she is friends with on FB had to be the person who ratted her out, because you cannot have access to someone’s information unless they confirm you as a friend. Hopefully this will be investigated because as Jeff mentioned, other people have already been disciplined for the same thing.
Jennifer. Jackie, the union rep you speak so highly of, has been 0% effective in assisting her co-workers lately, noticeably this year! Maybe since you no longer work there you’re not as in touch as you think you are. She’s been a kiss ass for some time. Right now, Angela is working with her to deal with her husband’s unfortunate accident, so her tongue is so far up Angela’s ass if she hiccups Angela will flinch.
I have seen the Facebook pages; there were hundreds of posts entered on County time.
They were no doubt too numerous to attach here and I’m sure Locurto would not have taken the time to read them all. Stop the madness.
I do have to stand up for the times posted on fb. If any of you had posted via your cell then you know the post doesnt always go through at the time it is sent. With that said, can anyone say with 100% confidance those times are accurate?
Now you’re kinda reaching.
Jennifer:
Correct me if I’m wrong. But, if the Department of Defense doesn’t see this as a big deal, why would the county? We are talking about the military for the most part. The majority are military the rest are civilian. Their computer system doesn’t block Facebook nor employees access to it. My perception is that the federal government is miles ahead on this issue and the county is freaking out about it. What say you?
I think the key point is not just going on FB on your breaks using your cell phone, it is wasting time while on the clock. Line workers have had internet reports pulled on them to see how much time they are surfing the net. If the report is pulled and it shows you only visited sites that are work related, then no harm done. But if it shows you are booking trips, shopping, posting with others on FB, and the times is well beyond any breaks or lunches, then you are stealing time from the county. You can be suspended or even recommend for termination. The problem exists when supervisors ride people in the unit for using their cell phone, texting, or going on the internet, and then they do the same thing. It the old mantra, “Do as I say, not as I do”, and it causes low morale in the unit. And if a supervisor doesn’t like you and is asking to have these reports pulled on you, but it feels like nothing happens to them for the same thing, then what do you do? Something to note is that the FB pages that were submitted are not all the pages according to Sharon, and one of the posts the writer of the letter refers to is not even present. I am sure there will be more to see soon. I also agree that FB postings may not be updated the minute you post, but give me a break. If you were to allow 5 min. delays for all of the posts shown, there is still a problem. I have heard personally from people in this particular unit that things have been bad for awhile. Hopefully “anonymous” will come forward.
Since this internet usage issue is viewed as such a problem for the county, my suggestion would be to take the internet away from ALL county employees, supervisors and managers included. Then, a limited number of “internet stations” can then be setup in workplaces where employees sign-in/log-in, state their purpose while on the internet, such as research for work purposes or data input/retrieval.
Some county employees have already suggested/requested that county offices provide “internet stations” so that county employees could do recreational internet surfing, etc. I don’t think this is necessary as most folks have access to electronic media with internet access which they can use on their mealtimes and/or breaktimes.
As long as I have been with the county, it’s always been, “Do as I say, not as I do.” Well, that ain’t gonna fly anymore.
Jenifer… again it’s not the time nor is it neccessarily these specific times. As Insider and Truth Hurts point out it is the overall ” do as I say and not as I do” attitude. Besides the discussion of a potentially sensitive and certainly confidential personnel matter . Any supervisor that jokes about terminating someone period let alone publicly should not be a supervisor.@ Anthony Stark, I like Sharon have many very reliable sources that I cannot share and yes I probably do know anonymous but no, I am not aware of their identity.
So let me see if I can get this straight…
We are now publicly discussing civil service workers that are protected by employee unions who get paid to pass out to welfare recipients that have to be coached on how to get jobs so they can one day grow up to become tax payers so we can fund this TAD department and HR drama bullshit?
V:
It’s a vicious little circle, isn’t it?
Only thing is SBPEA has no balls!
No supervisor of any department should be discussing any of their employees over the internet period! I agree that that supervisor should be terminated like yesterday.
Garbage – How did she do that?
Taking a poll: If you knew that measures were being taken to expose your many failures on the job, would you stick it out to be fired or would you quit?
GM:
What are you talking about? Elaborate please.
Let me clarify that my last comment had nothing to do with any of my FB friends.
..Oooh! Oooh!Blu I know! If I was the supervisor who was being exposed, I would wait until I returned from my much anticipated Vegas Trip (forced Administrative Leave) and wait to be fired so I too can collect Unemployment Benefits(like that guy who was fired). Hmmmm Karma is a bitch! HA!
@ aj & confused: Hey Did I hear someone mention BABYSITTING?…. Here’s the direct quote from the Facebook Page…”Angela Nimmo Garrett gets paid pretty good for being a babysitter.
June 16 at 9:27am via Text Message · Comment · Like”
It was posted on a County Payday as well. Check your calendars.
Isn’t the county’s standard operating procedure that when they terminate an employee, they make the departing employee sign a form waiving any rights to unemployment benefits?
@Gerald: If you think for one minute Garrett wasn’t talking to that Heather Santos Chick about her plans to terminate that Jerry guy, you are delusional. Read the actual complaint and July 12th’s FB Posts! Blu already referenced it… “I will clarify that it has nothing to do with any of my FB friends.” and my sources say that Jerry Edwards was terminated on July 13th 2010. I would say on July 12th Garrett received some sort of Termination confirmation, hmmm…I’m also willing to bet my paycheck he’s not one of her FB friends! Now, that is what I would consider “discussing any of their employees over the internet”! Now Git!
Question –
Just exactly HOW does someone go around documenting firing a civil employee protected by union negotiations? So, when income decline, and taxes decline, county services must decline also. However, that means civil workers with unions to protect them and their incomes…. and it seems like an ugly mess now.
Cause all I understand is that when tax payers are losing their incomes due to governmental regulations, they generally don’t have much recourse available to them.(ie, I have lost many jobs by being replaced by immigrants whom have tech visas that are willing to work for much less than I can afford to with my government insured school loan payments)
Just curious.
Any posts during “work hours” should not be allowed period. Regardless if it has to do with work, or your personal life.
It amazes me that DD’s & DM’s have soooo much time on their hands to investigate what people are posting and when, and why…..WTF??? I think it would be a breach of my confidentiality if someone is researching me for what I do or say outside of Hell. C’Mon…first of all, you don’t post things like…Im sick but going to Vegas!!! Ha ha ha, you probably got what you deserved. Second of all, why do any of you think that your work friends are loyal to you? How long have you really known them? if you don’t hang out outside of work, WHY would you be friends with them on FB, Myspace, whatever. They will throw you under the bus in a HOT MINUTE!!! just to save their own A$$. On the Supervisor issue…..I have first hand experience as a supervisor and it was the biggest mistake ever! I am no longer a supervisor, nor am I employed with the County after almost 20 years. No, I was not fired, I quit! Best decision I ever made. Anyway…I know that as a supervisor, you cannot reference basically anything you say, discuss or possible actions to be taken with another employee. why would you even do such a Stupid thing by posting what kind of action you had to take towards an employee? No common sense. I don’t care what time of day it was done, it should not have taken place, and that supervisor should no longer be employed by the County of San Bernardino based on personnel rules, MOU and standards of employee conduct. How do you like those apples? But, this supervisor must have their nose so far up someones butt, they have the higher power of protection. Sad, but true. Depends on who you are, who you are having relations with, and what they have over you for you to drop and do their every command. i am not one of those people, and I stood up for myself and hence….I was retaliated against. I have a nice little lawsuit going on and hope to have the jobs of a couple higher ups for harrassment, discrimination, retaliation and just plain ABUSE!!!! Yes, I have all the documentation I need to have thier butts handed to em. And, that day will come. Goes all the way to HR….yup, DD’s like to “mingle” with HR….you get what you want when you do “favors” for people. It is disgusting. You get sucked in to this job and it is almost impossible to leave. Where the hell you gonna go? Therefore, you are stuck to take the abuse daily. It’s a horrible place to work and some things will never change.
I have much more to say but probably have bored you all, or pissed you off. Depending who you are. Try to have a good weekend and be thankful your not at work. God bless TAD employees….get out if you ever have the chance.
This discussion is not the first, nor the last about the corruption that goes on here. It has for years, the only difference is, there are websites, blogs, etc to air your frustrations, and then you STILL have to pay the piper. Wow.. you can’t win. So the best thing to do is, go to work, do your job, go home. End of story.
@Beaufort-I have heard from a few county employees that are fired that they were able to receive unemployment. I guess they county doesn’t fight the claim. I have seen other employers fight the claim by disclosing the reason you were fired, but I have yet to hear of anyone telling me they were denied by the county.
@ Insider:
Thank you for the info. I’ve actually heard of some cases where the county has done this. Maybe it’s due to extenuating circumstances of some sort.
@ Ezekiel 25:17: Love those bible verses! No joke!
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I just read the other thread on this blog titled “TAD Supervision”. Can the admins post a link to it from this thread so the knuckle dragging stupidvisors skulking here who have convinced themselves they are above the law can find their way to it and get a little bit more icky truth tossed on them? Thank you!
@ Ezekiel, I think people are looking way too hard to find crap on someone else because they have nothing better to do and no life outside of work. Why assume that post had something to do with anything work related. Could someone not hear something regarding a friend or their own personal life that the post could refer too?
I agree that supervisor needs to have some form of discipline if it is proved she talked about a firing an employee. People better be 100% sure because if she wasn’t, then yes, karma is a bitch and it will come around.
@ Looking Way Too Hard, I would like to point out how all of this got started with FB. There were numerous FB posts that haven’t been posted here. What I will say is that my very reliable source(s)have said as well as shown me, the main reason Garrett’s FB pages were exposed is that Garrett was heard talking as well as texting to other employees about her plans to terminate Jerry. You had to be a TAD02 insider and on her FB to know who these posts were referring to. How do you explain the “Babysitting” post on County time on payday? It wasn’t just one post that someone picked out and proclaimed it was about Jerry, it was the sum total of everything Garrett was Boasting and Posting!
Kudos to “Oh…COME ON!!!”
I am the first to admit I do not have all the details, nor do I have “reliable sources.” I certainly do not have an “anonymous” complaint either. That being said, read the following. IGNORANCE is defined as “a lack of knowledge, education, or education.” Stop being ignorant about these sups. Several of you do not have the facts, and are making assumptions about things you, and I, know nothing about. I guarantee none of you are innocent, or perfect employees. How would you feel if this was you as the subject of this witch hunt? You would feel like crap. I don’t know the people involved, but the overall theme of what is going on is disgusting. You all think you have this figured out. I also guarantee you would feel like jackasses if you knew how wrong you probably are. If you are also going to bring Christianity into this you should really think twice. You are far from being a Christian. Would not want to want to be you on your judgement day. The problem is that perception is reality, at every level. There are three sides to every story. One side (perception), the other side (perception) and the truth. Let me know when the real story comes out. Are you ready to bet a paycheck on what you believe is truly going on? I’m not.
Funny thing I was looking at the File TAD 002 and most the FB pictures I noticed that everyone in the pics is a county employee
I heard today all Angela received was a Letter of Repremand from Nancy Swanson. I actually have to say that I think if she deserved some type of action, that was the best thing and here are my reasons:
1 – No body on here can tell me truthfully that they have never vented about work or a co-worker in person or via fb/myspace/twitter.
2 – Every post in the attached file is subject to what one wants to see. I do agree they are distastful but there is no proof that she was talking specifically about any one individual. Plus, work doesn’t always consume everyone’s lives.
3 – Every TAD employee has breached someone’s confidentiality by either talking about a customer on the floor, looking up the caseload sizes of other employees or discussing a case they received from another worker.
Let’s face it, there isn’t one perfect person in this world and for every finger one points, there are 3 pointing right back.
Ive been using http://bit.ly/bJwmma . It uses a better method than blocking social media sites because it only monitors sites like Facebook in working hours. People/Employees still have the option to use it for a breather or during breaks so its really unnecessary to block it. Sometimes they use it for work too in helping reach decisions.